Comments on: Test Web Designs In Multiple Browsers http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/2008/08/test-web-designs-in-muliplte-browsers.html Alexander Higgins -- Your Advocate For Change Wed, 03 Dec 2008 21:36:06 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: ENULMONEROX http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/2008/08/test-web-designs-in-muliplte-browsers.html#comment-1965 ENULMONEROX Wed, 01 Oct 2008 14:02:17 +0000 http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/?p=183#comment-1965 Hi Nice site! G'night Hi
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]]> By: alexhiggins732 http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/2008/08/test-web-designs-in-muliplte-browsers.html#comment-67 alexhiggins732 Wed, 13 Aug 2008 04:59:28 +0000 http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/?p=183#comment-67 1) People still use outdated browsers. Many people believe in the notion if its not broken, don't fix. For example, my friends parents are still running windows 98 with IE 5.5 1)a I never even heard of dillo or some of these other browsers to be honeds 1)b It doesn't matter if they use the same Gecko engine or not. Simply click on the thumbnail in this post to see why (the thumbnail links to <a href="http://browsershots.org/http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/" rel="nofollow">http://browsershots.org/http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/</a>). You can immediately see that the default wordpress theme renders differently in various in epiphany, firefox, iceweasel, galeon, iceape, Mozilla, netscape, and seamonkey. Futher, the page renders differently between the various versions of each browser. 2) I agree 100% with you. Installing the latest version of each browser and checking a web sites functionality with each should be part of every developers best practices. 3) The problem is that is oftend not possible to have multiple versions of the same browser installed on the same machine. As your can see from 1)b it is important to test the various versions of each browser. How many times have you had something work in firefox 3 and not 2 or in ie6 and not ie7 or vice versa. 4) These new standards are going to be a subject another blog post. I really doubt that developers are going to adopt them for various reasons unless they are changed from there current version. Again, that's a whole different topic. But just think of how millions of sites are still using HTML 4 (including google) instead of xHTML. There will be even less adoption of the xHTML strict. There is some crazy stuff they expect to be followed and its just not going to happen.... 1) People still use outdated browsers. Many people believe in the notion if its not broken, don’t fix. For example, my friends parents are still running windows 98 with IE 5.5

1)a I never even heard of dillo or some of these other browsers to be honeds
1)b It doesn’t matter if they use the same Gecko engine or not. Simply click on the thumbnail in this post to see why (the thumbnail links to http://browsershots.org/http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/). You can immediately see that the default wordpress theme renders differently in various in epiphany, firefox, iceweasel, galeon, iceape, Mozilla, netscape, and seamonkey. Futher, the page renders differently between the various versions of each browser.

2) I agree 100% with you. Installing the latest version of each browser and checking a web sites functionality with each should be part of every developers best practices.

3) The problem is that is oftend not possible to have multiple versions of the same browser installed on the same machine. As your can see from 1)b it is important to test the various versions of each browser. How many times have you had something work in firefox 3 and not 2 or in ie6 and not ie7 or vice versa.

4) These new standards are going to be a subject another blog post. I really doubt that developers are going to adopt them for various reasons unless they are changed from there current version. Again, that’s a whole different topic. But just think of how millions of sites are still using HTML 4 (including google) instead of xHTML. There will be even less adoption of the xHTML strict. There is some crazy stuff they expect to be followed and its just not going to happen….

]]> By: Artyom http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/2008/08/test-web-designs-in-muliplte-browsers.html#comment-65 Artyom Wed, 13 Aug 2008 04:39:14 +0000 http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/?p=183#comment-65 Several notes: 1. Many browsers at browsershots.org are outdated or it is usless to check them: a. dillo -- no one uses it because it supports nothing. b. epiphany, firefox, iceweasel, galeon, iceape, Mozilla, netscape, seamonkey --- all use same engine Gecko, so it is enough to install firefox and check it. 2. It is not enogh to check how site looks, it is important to see how it behavies: JavaScript, forms etc. 3. It is faster and easier to install IE, Firefox, Safari, Opera and check them (for windows users -- only missing KHTML). For linux only serious problem is IE7, even Webkit (safari's engine) can be tested soon on linux. 4. It is more important to check that the site written according to standards to be sure it will not be broken in nex Super Craizy Web Browser 2010. Several notes:

1. Many browsers at browsershots.org are outdated or it is usless to check them:
a. dillo — no one uses it because it supports nothing.
b. epiphany, firefox, iceweasel, galeon, iceape, Mozilla, netscape, seamonkey — all use same engine Gecko, so it is enough to install firefox and check it.
2. It is not enogh to check how site looks, it is important to see how it behavies: JavaScript, forms etc.
3. It is faster and easier to install IE, Firefox, Safari, Opera and check them (for windows users — only missing KHTML). For linux only serious problem is IE7, even Webkit (safari’s engine) can be tested soon on linux.
4. It is more important to check that the site written according to standards to be sure it will not be broken in nex Super Craizy Web Browser 2010.

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